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protect nurses and to protect public health. >> they are working to get to the bottom of it. sandy, thank you. executive director of the truth about nursing. appreciate you. >> thanks so much. >> we continue on top of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. you are watching cnn. a second ebola stricken nurse is now being flown out of dallas to this hospital in maryland one day after a nurse amber vinson, was transferred to emory university in atlanta to be treated to ebola. vinson took the flight from cleveland to dallas the day before she was diagnosed before the virus. it turns out she did call the cdc and reported this low-grade fever. did make them aware of this plane she was about to get on and they did not say no. cdc director tom frieden was asked about that today as he testified before members of congress.
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>> did she in fact call the cdc and ask for guidance on boarding a commercial flight as far as you know? >> my understanding is she did contact the cdc and we discussed her symptoms. >> were you part of that conversation? >> no, i was not. >> as much is true, the dallas hospital that treated thomas eric duncan is showing regret saying we made mistakes and we're deeply sorry. texas health presbyterian hospital officials admitted they mishandled thomas' ebola case which led to two nurses, as you well know, being infected. cnn also learned this first nurse to fall ill, nina pham, will be treated at national institutes of health in maryland. the second ebola patient, amber vinson, this other nurse, arrived at atlanta's emory university hospital last night. last night hazmat teams descended on her apartment
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complex to decontaminate it. let's begin with two nurses. one headed to maryland and one in atlanta. how are they doing? >> nina pham is said to be in good condition. she's the first nurse to test positive for ebola. she is to be moved today to that nih facility in bethesda, maryland. not exactly clear why she's being moved to that facility whether it's a matter of her wishes, her family's wishes or this hospital deciding it's best to get all of the ebola patients that they had moved to other facilities so they can maybe try to regroup but again no exact cause on why she's being moved but she's said to be in good condition. there has been an update on amber vinson. we were able to watch her yesterday in realtime when she got off the plane to go to emory, she was able to walk with a little bit of aid of her own accord into an ambulance and then she was taken to emory university hospital where they
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have that special biocontainment unit. she was able to walk which certainly is a good sign. similar to kent brantly who was the first ebola patient who tested positive in liberia and he was able to walk off a plane and get into an ambulance as you may remember to go to emory. >> i talked to him last night on his show and he's doing better but by no means has he bounced back. you're in dallas. you're talking to people who live there. if you can, just give us a real idea of how people are feeling in this community. here they have thomas eric duncan and two nurses all of whom have ebola. is it fear? a couple schools have closed. put this in perspective for us, please. >> it's different for everybody. i can tell just about everywhere i go in dallas people realize i'm here to get ebola. i get the same question everywhere. i've been asked five times today different places even in the gym earlier this morning.
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people saying should i be worried? should i be concerned? what i always say is if you're a healthcare worker and you're dealing with an ebola patient, that's when you should be concerned but for general population at this point it does not seem to be something that should be a real issue. it is certainly good to have knowledge about it and good to learn about it and that's what we're trying to do and tell people as much as we can and arm them with as much information and we're hearing from people in the communities where the nurses have lived, you know, they wake up with reverse 911 call with pamphlet on their door explaining a neighbor tested positive and then reality of it is not just something on the news or read in the newspaper or online, it's something that they are confronted with as someone living in their community that they don't know that person. i think for the most part, the life of the city continues on. it's not -- there's not panic or anything like that. there's concern. there's interest. people watch it closely. they would like to have more
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information from this hospital and it's not been transparent in terms of what's gone on. we now have started to hear from whistle-blower on it the "today" show, one of the nurses inside the hospital. the hospital responded but not directly to her allegations. >> we'll look to hear her on your show, this nurse part of this indirectly treating him but has treated nina pham. back to the notion of fear. this irrational fear. let me play this quick sound bight. . >> there's irrational fear. if we think about what we've seen so far, one man came from liberia and contracted the ze s disease there and came to america and got sick here and now who else is sick from him? two healthcare workers who were taking intimate care of him, cleaning up his bodily secretions and dealing with his blood and medical procedures.
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those are two people who have gotten sick. not the 48 some odd people being tracked by the cdc. >> the 48 who had contact with him in the community? >> no one from that group has gotten sick. it's people taking close care of him in a hospital setting. until this epidemic is stopped in west africa, it will continue to be a global problem and the answer is not simply close the borders and let them deal with it themselves. we have to be pro-active. we have to go put an end to this epidemic or it's going to keep coming back to cause problems and suffering from the global community. >> dr. kent brantly, as we all remember, was brought over from africa as a doctor. came back to emory. you remember the pictures from the helicopters hovering over the scene of him walking into this hospital and placed in isolation and now fast forward time. he's sitting in front of you. he told you that he's not 100%.
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how does he feel now? >> he says he's not sure when he'll ever be able to say he feels totally normal. he's walking around. he's healthy. he looks good. he doesn't feel 100%. he's interacting with his family and with his children. he's spending time with them. he's not sure what his future holds because he thought he would be in liberia for the next two years. i interviewed nancy writebol twice who tested positive and she's getting better and better and still taking medication but she's in great spirits and they're both extraordinary people who have dedicated their lives to helping others and they're not letting this stop them from doing that. they plan to continue that work. kent brantly donated his blood now at least three times both to
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nina pham and two others and he says he's willing to do it again. he volunteered to donate his blood to thomas eric duncan, the liberian patient but they weren't the same blood type so that didn't occur. he's willing to donate plasma and he'll do that as long as necessary but he hopes it's not necessary again. >> thank you so much. we'll see you at 8:00 with that whistle-blower and that dallas nurse from the hospital. look forward to it at 8:00 eastern on cnn. we mentioned the cdc director testifying on capitol hill today. now i have the senior democrat on the house energy and commerce subcommittee on oversight and investigation. she's the one who called today's hearing. congresswoman, it's nice to see you. thank you for taking the time. >> thanks. >> okay. so i was glued to this hearing. i was watching every single question you asked of these gentlemen sitting at the table in front of you. let me begin with the notion
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that the second nurse amber vinson boarded this plane and you asked dr. frieden what everyone wants to know. what that conversation was between this healthcare professional, who made the cdc aware she had a low-grade fever before she got on the plane and made them aware she was getting on a plane in the first place, were you clear about what that conversation was? i wasn't listening to the testimony. >> the cdc has not answered my question about why she was allowed to get on that plane after she self-reported having a fever. the way i read the cdc guidelines, all of those individuals who are being self-monitored, they shouldn't be traveling on commercial transportation and so this is something i think will be clarified now. i don't think they'll let those folks travel. it's part of a bigger question that i want to know. seems like there was some very slip shot things by the hospital in dallas and cdc in early stages and that's why we have more infections now.
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>> on some of that, you pointed to, you know, a diagram in a newspaper that i woke up and saw first thing this morning when it comes to the nurses and doctors, personal protection equipment, the capes, masks, the gloves, et cetera. what were you trying to get at with your questions? >> if the caregivers are doing protocols, they should not have bodily contact with fluids of the ebola patients and patients become more contagious the sicker they get so it's vital that caretakers have this protection. dr. frieden said today for the first time he thinks that nurse pham was contaminated in the first 48 hours before the actual diagnosis and cdc came on the ground and i think that's probably true. but what we need to make sure going forward -- what i'm really concerned about is every hospital -- my hospital in denver and all hospitals around
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the country, know that if a patient shows up and they have a fever and even if they're not vomiting or whatever and they say they've been to africa, to treat that very seriously as it might be ebola. i'm not sure that was done at the presbyterian hospital in dallas. >> dr. frieden, the man in the hot seat today, he has this delicate job of informing the public and keeping the calm. i talked to dr. sanjay gupta who said out of the gate he felt bad for him today answering some of these questions. my question to you is do you think he should resign? >> absolutely not. i think tom freed seasonieden i dedicated public servant and he's trying to do the right thing here. it's not easily transmitted. it's not transmitted through the air and folks that have gotten it have had close contact with sick patients in a hospital
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setting. what we need to make sure is two things. we need to work aggressively with international organizations to contain this outbreak in west africa. if we don't, we're only going to be seeing more and more of these patients showing up in our emergency rooms and then the second thing we need to make sure is that the cdc has adequate protocols but also that every state and local healthcare system and every hospital and every hospital worker knows what to do. here we had protocols. they had protocols of what people should do. these nurses at this hospital, they were given e-mails and things but they didn't have actual training about what to do. and it looks like certainly this whistle-blower who you've had on your program, what she's saying is in the early days, there was skin exposed on some of these healthcare workers. that's against the cdc protocols. that's not tom frieden's fault. it doesn't really matter whose
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fault it is. the fact is we need to really tighten up at every level here. >> congresswoman, please keep asking those tough questions. we promise we will do the same. appreciate it very much. we are learning the hospital staff who treated thomas eric duncan may be put on a no board list. not allowed to fly on planes. what about anything else? what about their workplaces? what about if they get on the bus? what about malls? we'll talk to an expert if keeping them off plane is enough and a neighbor of the second nurse in dallas who is revealing the system people are using to alert people in his community. you're watching cnn's special coverage. stay with me. we put all the apps you love... inside a car designed to connect you to a world of possibilities.
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you're watching cnn. ebola is forcing a lot of officials to walk this fine line between taking precautions against this deadly virus and feeding this frenzy over it. here's what i can tell you. five schools are closed today. in ohio, the school district shut two schools because a staff member was possibly on the same plane by not on the same flight that amber vinson took when she had a fever. in texas, i can tell you that two students were on vinson's pla plane. these young people had no direct contact with the nurse but they were on that flight. the district is closing the children's schools and a third just to disinfect the buildings. parents are voluntarily keeping kids home even though they are allowing them to return to class. a decision that some parents
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resisted. >> is this not a mistake to send kids to school? it was enough to set up a press conference and send e-mails home and maybe it's enough to think we should send the kids home. >> joining ining me now, curre president and ceo of new health system. doctor, welcome. >> thank you. >> let's just begin with these school closings. one camp could say this is the right thing. maybe they needed precautions a couple weeks ago or another camp can say this is ridiculous adding to hysteria. where do you fall? >> we have to take all precautions necessary right now and get a handle on this. a potential public emergency that needs to be stopped right now. as far as we know, we have a limited number of exposure and limited number of people that have had contact with persons that might be exposed. it's a good place to start.
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>> i can only imagine. i would sit here and tell a different story if they hadn't closed schools and hysteria over why aren't schools closed and then you have 76 healthcare workers from this dallas hospital who potentially federal government making the decision as to whether or not they should put on this do not board list. can't get on planes. my question is, all right, if the decision is not being put on planes, what about buses, trains, malls? could you go on and on. where do you draw the line? >> i think we have to be concerned about the persons when they become infected. if they are not exhibiting signs right now and they are not having flu-like symptoms they're not contagious. >> amber vinson hopped on that plane not knowing. >> do we know enough about that right now to say with certainty? we don't. we need to take proper precautions. if we have a limited amount of
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people, now it the time to impose those restrictions. we would watch staff involved and we'll take every precaution to prevent them from becoming infectious. >> would you go to self-isolation for 21 days? >> if they had symptoms, i would definitely have them watched. >> all right. thank you very much. i appreciate it. coming up next, images like these have some people in dallas nervous. would you be? hazmat crews showing up at the apartment complex of amber vinson, the second nurse to contract ebola. we'll talk to a neighbor about precautions people there are taking. [ female announcer ] this is our new turkey cranberry flatbread before we craft it into a sandwich. the amazingly tender roasted turkey -- always raised without antibiotics,
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>> it's one thing to hear or see or read these stories about ebola but when you look outside your window and see the reality of it, that's a different ball game. this is what neighbors of ebola patient and nurse amber vinson are seeing today. hazmat crews doing some extensive cleaning in and around her dallas apartment. that's not all that happens when there's word an ebola patient lived in your complex. authorities text you. they call. they bang on your front door alerting neighbors to the news. they want you to know what's
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going on. i'm going to bring in james. he lives on the apartment complexn the other side of amber vinson's. thanks for coming on. >> you're welcome. >> when you first heard about this happening very close to you, you were awakened by a helicopter. you saw with your own eyes these hazmat crews. what's your concern number one? >> i guess my concern are those in charge of protecting us from it. it seems to be that there was several issues with treating mr. duncan in the first place and it seemed like so much of this was unnecessary to begin with. >> so it's the people who you have questions over, what about just where you live. do you find yourself even though we know the facts. you can't get ebola unless you are in close act with someone who has it or bodily fluids, none of which apply to you, do
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you find yourself washing your hands extra. people have questions these days. >> i think you can't help but be a little more wary of your surroundings absolutely. y does she run on the same jogging paths? work out in the same gym that we all do? my concern was there. it's just not feeding into hysteria and like you said continually washing your hands and be aware of your surroundings. >> you say this word hysteria. i don't know if hysteria applies to this story. you live in dallas so you tell me. when we hear about schools closed because kids were on the same plane or on that flight of amber vinson's coming back from cleveland, we know they were close. do you think that's necessary? does that feed into the hysteria? >> i think that it's better to be safe than sorry.
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if it means closing schools down for a few days just to make sure no one else was exposed, certainly that's the right thing to do. >> appreciate it, sir, very much for coming on. coming up next, we'll talk to the man who served as special assistant to president george w. bush on biodefense. what does he think here? how should the federal government balance informing the public without creating this panic and hysteria and has the cdc done a good job with that and a doctor tells cnn people are "scared" to go to this dallas hospital. what about other nurses, especially those that treated duncan? we're now getting a new response from that hospital. we'll share that with you coming up on cnn.
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bottom of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. today we watched the chief of the cdc, dr. tom frieden, the face of this response to ebola in the u.s. grilled today on capitol hill testifying before members of congress amid some calls for him to resign. he was grilled about everything from the cdc green lighting this nurse's commercial air flight one day before she was diagnosed with ebola to questions about inadequate personal protective equipment in some of these hospitals. so let me bring in dr. kenneth
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bernard special assistant to george w. bush on biodefense and under clinton '98 to 2000. you have dealt with anthrax, sars and aids. you know what you're talking about. i want to get to that in a minute. on dr. frieden, you were quoted this morning in the "times" and i wanted to talk to you. you said dr. frieden's job is like being on a battlefield. what do you mean by that? >> this security and health are now intertwined in the 21st century. we saw it with aids and anthrax and again with ebola. our security as a nation, our family security, our community's security, our international security is all tightly intertwined now. i think that what i've seen in those years starting with hiv and going through sars and anthrax and now is that there's no turning back. it's a battlefield. we're every day battling
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infectious diseases of one kind or another and they pop up ugly heads and impact us in a big way. >> i remember sars and the fears of the masks and could i get it and how does that happen and of course aids. you think of aids and anthrax. all of those the nation, the h word, hysteria. hysteria. what did you learn from that this administration should bring to the table? >> public health isn't just about being right. it's being right and also having the faith in people that you're serving. i think that you'll notice tony fauci is often on television. he's a master the explaining complicated issues to the general public. tom is good at it too. it's a skill. public health isn't just finding sick people, treating them, isolatining them. it's communicating with the
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public. that's even the biggest job. >> many people don't realize this. it's easy to do this to the cdc. i'm not saying the cdc has been awesome through this whole thing whatsoever. the cdc are not this agency that mandates protocol and guidelines. they have to recommend them. they aren't even allowed to say i'm going to texas to fix this. texas has to invite them. it's not entirely what people think. >> no, it isn't. cdc provides the proper guidelines and those guidelines change over time as we get experience. >> just recently changing. evolving. >> there's only been 2,500 ebola cases diagnosed up until this outbreak. we didn't have a lot of information on ebola except for what came out in laboratories and individual outbreaks in the last 25 years. so it's a tough job dealing with a new outbreak. even if you know what the disease is and you know what the virus is, how it acts in a big population is completely different and we learn new things all the time and the
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whole idea is to be nimble, learn new things, adapt your recommendations. tom frieden doesn't have the opportunity to sit back and say let's wait two weeks and see how it goes and we'll have information we need. he has to make recommendations with what we know today and if he has to change them tomorrow, he has to change them. >> here's the question i was talking to anderson cooper in dallas. i'm getting this question from people. i'm no doctor. i'm not in on super secret information from cdc and people ask me should i be worried? i think you're the kind of person i could ask that question of. given your previous experience and what we know. this is unthinkable scenario that ebola reached our shores and now multiple people have contracted it. what's going to happen? >> if the virus doesn't mutate and i have no expectation that it's going to mutate into something that's more spreadable, i think that we're going to get on top of this. i think there could be a few more cases.
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there could be several cases. there could be maybe 10 or 20. i don't know. i don't think this is going to be an outbreak we have to be afraid of. remember when you make public health recommendations like when they closed schools or they -- >> they have in texas and ohio. >> exactly. that has huge impacts. that means all those parents have to stay home. they can't go to work because they have to stay home with a kid that would otherwise are in school. public health recommendations like this have huge impacts that spread through society. i think in this case this is not a terribly communicable disease unless you're caring for a patient or have close physical contact. none of the other contacts of the african that died have come down with it yet. >> thank goodness. dr. kenneth bernard. what a pleasure. we got lucky having you sit next to me. thank you. coming up next, we talk about this hospital here in dallas receiving a lot of criticism for the response to these multiple ebola cases.
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they now are speaking out. they are responding. just into us here at cnn, a statement for you from texas health presbyterian in dallas and in it talks about its care and also explains why both nurses with ebola were transferred out of dallas to other hospitals. that's next. nineteen years ago, we thought, "wow, how is there no way to tell the good from the bad?" so we gave people the power of the review. and now angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule services
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maryland. one of only four hospitals in this country certified to treat ebola patients. we're also getting the statement now from the hospital in dallas that has been treating nurse nina pham. elizabeth cohen is there outside of texas health presbyterian hospital. what are they saying? >> i want to read you part of this statement from presbyterian. "we believe the transferring of nina to nih is right decision. with many sidelined for continuous monitoring, it's in the best interest of this hospital, employees, nurses, physician and community to give the hospital an opportunity to prepare for whatever comes next." what they're saying is we have dozens of employees who are at home that can't come in because they helped take care of mr. duncan and we need to prepare for whatever comes next. what i kind of read there is there could be a third employee who comes in with an ebola
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infection and we need to get ready for that person. >> wow. all right. so the possibility of a third. what about this notion we're hearing from a cdc official who spent two weeks at this hospital. the word he used is scared. people are scared to come to the hospital. we know not even half beds are full right now. tell me more about that. >> i was speaking to a cdc doctor that spent two weeks this week inside the hospital constantly with the doctors and nurses and talking to them and helping them improve their systems. and he said, look, this hospital has 900 beds and 300 of them are full because people are scared to come here. that's not a great situation for a hospital. one-third of your beds full. that's really financially problematic. so my guess is that this hospital is -- it behooves them in a way to get ebola patients out of the hospital. they want to get back to normal as soon as they can.
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>> just reading about this hospital sounds like an excellent hospital in dallas and talking to a lot of doctors and you have as well, this could have been anywhere. this could have been anywhere. elizabeth cohen, thank you very much. just ahead, one of president obama's top military advisers told cnn he's worried about ebola going airborne. hmm. talk to a lot of doctors and they say that's the very highly improbable. so how does the white house feel about that remark? we'll talk to jake tapper about that. plus, i'll talk to halle berry. you heard me right. about the possible food shortage from this ebola outbreak in africa. that's coming up. ever since we launched snapshot, my life has been positively cray-cray. what's snapshot, you ask? only a revolutionary tool that can save you big-time. just plug it in, and the better you drive, the more cash you'll stash. switching to progressive can already save ye $500.
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if there's one thing we know
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about ebola, it is not airborne. that's a direct quote from the president of the united states, but president obama's top military adviser is apparently not so convinced. general martin dempsey refusing to rule out the possibility that one day he may have to fight ebola in a more aggressive form. listen to what he told kyra phillips. >> we know so little about it. you will hear people describe whether it could be airborne. you have two doctors with that specialty into a room and one will say no it will never become airborne but it could mutate so it would be harder to discover. it disguises itself in the body which is what makes it so dangerous and has that incubation period of 21 days. another doctor will say if it continues to mutate at the rate it's mutating and we go from 20,000 infected to 100,000, the population might allow it the opportunity to mutate and become airborne and then it will be
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extraordinarily serious problem. i don't know who is right. i don't want to take that chance. >> all right, jake tapper. i want to bring you in. our chief white house correspondent. you heard from general dempsey and you have what the president said and multiple doctors who have said it's impossible. what's happening here? >> well, it's somebody who is not a public health official giving a thought on a major public health issue. general martin dempsey of course is a decorated veteran and not somebody whose honor one would impugn. if you were to get truth serum into someone at the white house they would say we defer to our public health officials when it comes to whether or not ebola is airborne. you won't hear anyone criticize general dempsey, his being the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. >> let me know when you find that truth serum by the way, tapper. we did have a columnist on
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yesterday that wrote this piece in "the l.a. times" a couple days ago talking about if it's not cdc who technically is in charge, it should be the surgeon general pointing to the nra for the reason this doctor has not been green lighted. >> it's true that nra opposed the confirmation of the doctor who the president nominated to be surgeon general. the white house was asked about this yesterday and the basic answer is having a confirmed surgeon general couldn't hurt but they are not out there making the argument that the surgeon general, a confirmed surgeon general, would be making a difference in what's going on right now in terms of the battle against ebola. first of all, there is an acting surgeon general. second of all, the person who is designated to be running the response right now is the president's adviser so they're not making that argument although i have heard people say republicans should allow the
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confirmation that would change everything. that's not an argument the white house . >> i have heard that multiple times as well. jake tapper, we'll see you in ten minutes with "the lead". could ebola have an impact on the food supply? it's something that halle berry is talking out about. and guru michael kors to help feed the hungry. we'll explain how one selfie can help. that's coming up. er kid: whoa narrator: that got torture tested by teenagers and cried out for help. from the surprised designers. who came to the rescue with a brilliant fix male designer: i love it narrator: which created thousands of new customers for the tennis shoes that got torture tested by teenagers. the internet of everything is changing manufacturing.
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fighting back, the world food program is sending emergency supplies to nearly 1.3 million people in west africa. i talked to two advocates lending their fame as world food day today is brought into greater focus. fashion designer michael kors and actress halle berry have been providing meals for kids all around the world. take a listen. >> thank you so much for coming in. we appreciate it. before we get into the selfies, people are concerned about west africa because of everything happening there, in terms of the remote villages, the farming
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issues. they say they need to reach 1.3 million people and so far they have only been able to provide food for 700,000. and you are all are so dedicated to that issue. how much does it concern? >> it's a concern but world food program, they are on the ground. they are everywhere. they are acclimated to places like syria, west africa, places that you have catastrophic situations. so are they managing to get everything out there but we know that they are there and they have the infrastructure. if anyone is going to do it, they are going to do it. >> tell me about nicuaragwa. you went down in july? >> yes. >> how was it? >> one of the most amazing experiences in my life. one of the most important things was to go see with my own two eyes and you must do that in
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order to get a feeling and i brought this feeling home with me and it was staggering to see how beautiful the country is but how depressed the people are and how in need the people are and that's what was shocking for me. and i also took my daughter on this trip. she's 6. she got to see these kids and i didn't say one word to her. i was going to let her experience and feel it. and it was -- it changed her life as well. >> what did she say? >> well, when we were there, she was very quiet. she saw that these kids were different, the reality was different, she was helping to serve the food and she thought the rice looked pretty good. can i have some? she was inspired by how good the food was but also worried that this was all that they got, that this was the one meal they got a day. so now when i go home to her and say, you're really not done with the chicken fingers? there's kids that don't have food. >> why do you care so much about this? >> well, i have to say, some
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people, when you're in fashion you can say, i'm not a politician, i'm not a scientist. i'm not a doctor. but what can i do? hopefully i make people feel a little better about themselves, about a spring in their walk and i believe you can change lives quickly. and i love anywhere that you see results. and the simple truth is, you know, the hunger issue, we have the food. the food is there. there's more than enough food to feed the hungry. >> so that's the issue? >> the issue is getting the food to the people who need it. and we've seen what's happened now in the past few years. it's pretty remarkable the needle's moving quickly. we went from one in eight to one in nine. now, one in nine is still too many as far as people going to bed hungry at night around the world. but that's a move on the needle. >> talk to me about these
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t-shirts and what people can do who are watching. >> here we are. >> well, what i decided was, okay, go into one of my stores, get the t-shirt, take a fabulous picture of yourself or have a friend post it. take it and when i see that, for every selfie, i'll donate $100. >> how do you get people to care about what is happening that seems like a half a world away? >> well, i think this is a good way. this is a very ingenious idea because it helps people to do what we are all into doing today, taking pictures of ourselves. i'm not personally. >> be neither. >> but it's about saying, use that which we are all into doing today and find a way to do good.
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my daughter did a lemonade stand when she came home and she raised $300 to send to the world food program. in four hours on our street she raised -- >> a little lemonade goes a long way. >> one cup of coffee, think about this, that's meals for a month. how about that? >> because -- >> $5 turns into 30 meals. pretty amazing. everyone can get involved. >> so, of course, they gave me one of these t-shirts which i threw on and made sure i got my selfie and you can do this as well. it's called selfless selfie and it's called selfless because you're being selfless in helping people all around the world who need the help. michael, putting your money where your mouth is. this picture wraps up 100 meals and yours can, too, 100 meals for people who need it all around the world.
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make sure you #watchhungerstop. quick check of the dow before i let you go. it's been a roller coaster week. it's pretty flat right now before the bell rings. just down about 40 points. go to for a quick check of that. i'm brooke baldwin. see you back here tomorrow. in the meantime, "the lead" with jake tapper starts now. the nation's top public health official on the hot seat in front of u.s. lawmakers. and he still does not know how two nurses in dallas contracted ebola. i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." the national lead. breaking news on ebola. scares pop up in a state far away from texas as the first nurse infected with ebola gets ready to make an urgent trip across the country. flight attendants and pilots grounded but would new screening protocols have stopped her or